Contending for the Faith: Refuting “The Ledge” Movie

The plot of the film entitled “The Ledge” ( centers around an openly atheist hero (Gavin) and a Christian villain (Joe). At a particular point during the film, the conservative Christian husband engages in some interesting dialogue with the atheist man trying to seduce his wife. It is most of this dialogue that this blog concerns itself with. The film’s director is an outspoken atheist named Matthew Chapman, who also happens to be the great-great-grandson of Charles Darwin. He claims that he didn’t make the film for atheists, but anyone who watches this movie may come away with a different opinion. Either way, not much appears on the web in the way of critiquing what must be characterized as an utterly irrational attempt at dispelling the Christian worldview. So I decided to provide a rational response to a particular section of the contrived dialogue that comprises the crux of the film’s aim. Specifically, I have identified at least 20 errors in reasoning that occur during the dialogue that the listener may or may not have picked up on.
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If I have told you earthly things, and you believe not, how shall you believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

The person I spoke with below put forward the idea that the word “ground” used in the Genesis narrative of the creation of the man means “cultivated earth.” She posited this idea so that it would allow for the harmonization of Genesis with the theory of Evolution.

When I think about how our dialogue went, the first verse from the Bible that comes to mind is:

If I have told you earthly things, and you believe not, how shall you believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
(John 3:12)


When you have spare time:

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

(Genesis 2:7)

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