Is The Punishment for Sin Death?

This thread is in response to the following YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZrAtTfskso&list=PLHjVR-mjXyvH0JUij49wuNmkg4lUBnM6R&index=25&ab_channel=IdolKiller

The thread is only tangentially related to the YouTube video. So watching the video will not benefit the reader one way or the other.

This a discussion between 5 persons about whether the punishment for sin is death.

1. @kisstheson9519
The punishment for sin is death. Isn’t it simply understood that Jesus conquered death and through Him, we have victory over the punishment of sin?

2. @IdolKiller –> @kisstheson9519
Death was a MERCY God enacted upon man, to limit his suffering and provide means of redemption. Though there are specific sins so grave death is a penalty enacted upon the guilty as a mercy to the living.

3. @kisstheson9519 –> @IdolKiller
The punishment for sin is death and we are able to conquer death through Christ.
James 1:15
“Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.”

1 John 4:9
“In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.”

4. @ChristPlusZero.org –> @kisstheson9519
I am interested in this claim that the punishment for sin is death. Can you provide a verse or two that would help a biblically ignorant person to understand this claim to be true?

@Dizerner –> @ChristPlusZero.org
The soul that sins shall die

5. @ChristPlusZero.org –> @Dizerner
Thanks for your response. I agree that Ezekiel 18:4 (to which you refer) is indeed a punishment. But this verse does not appear to support the idea that each and every sin deserves death which is usually what is meant when someone says “the punishment for sin is death.” Ezekiel 18 refers to a sinner’s UNTIMELY death on account of his unfazed and utter disloyalty to God’s law. Such death is an execution and not mere mortality. This is seen when the same chapter speaks of a repentant sinner who does not die. Ezekiel 18:4, then, serves to show that the generic penalty for sin cannot be death (at least not the one mentioned in Ezekiel). Is there another verse you can provide that supports your initial claim?

6. @kisstheson9519 –> @ChristPlusZero.org
Forgive me, I misspoke.
The payment for sin is death which is a payment that no one can afford, so technically it can be considered a punishment 😉

James 1:15 – Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

Romans 5:12 – Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

7. @ChristPlusZero.org –> @kisstheson9519
I think we can all agree that whatever James 1:15 means, it cannot mean that the punishment for sin is death. Otherwise, the Scriptures would not speak of a sin that is not unto death (1 John 5:17). The mere fact that there are several sins in the Bible that do not require UNTIMELY death is a testament to the fact that the generic penalty for sin is not death. Hence, it seems that so far, the popular premise that “the punishment for sin is death” is unproven. Else, are there other passages that serve to bolster this premise?